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Post by Professor Moriarty on Jun 22, 2018 8:04:50 GMT -5
Good video George!
Unfortunately, I had to skim it but plan to go back and watch it again.
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 9:24:56 GMT -5
Sugar Creek Racing: I thought about running the rear fenders over the rear wheels and down to the rear.
I've never asked Joe or others why they stop there rear fenders in front of the rear wheels. Maybe Chuy or someone has tested in wind tunnel and that is as far as it needs to go. I personally like the Nellie Faye look better. And, I would guess that the fenders need to at leas go half way over the rear wheels. My reasoning is that when the fender cuts off early the air coming across the fender meets the wheel which is turning the opposite direction.
If you look at the original pictures you will see that I did make modifications back there. But, the car was slopped front to rear on one side when I got it. And, the original design stopped short of the front wheel. So, when the car was to be natural wood, it would have looked weird to have such an addition. Joe, I'm sure, could have done something creative there had he wanted that.
Then there is the whole issue of what to create with not to mention the additional weight. It could be done, but would have required a lot of work. And, with the knowledge I have a lot of sanding. With balsa, this would be really difficult.
If you have suggestions as to how you would have created this would be a great place to do so.
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Post by Sugar Creek Racing on Jun 22, 2018 10:32:57 GMT -5
Sugar Creek Racing: I thought about running the rear fenders over the rear wheels and down to the rear. I've never asked Joe or others why they stop there rear fenders in front of the rear wheels. Maybe Chuy or someone has tested in wind tunnel and that is as far as it needs to go. I personally like the Nellie Faye look better. And, I would guess that the fenders need to at leas go half way over the rear wheels. My reasoning is that when the fender cuts off early the air coming across the fender meets the wheel which is turning the opposite direction. If you look at the original pictures you will see that I did make modifications back there. But, the car was slopped front to rear on one side when I got it. And, the original design stopped short of the front wheel. So, when the car was to be natural wood, it would have looked weird to have such an addition. Joe, I'm sure, could have done something creative there had he wanted that. Then there is the whole issue of what to create with not to mention the additional weight. It could be done, but would have required a lot of work. And, with the knowledge I have a lot of sanding. With balsa, this would be really difficult. If you have suggestions as to how you would have created this would be a great place to do so. Eagle, I believe they are usually terminated there because of how far back the rear wheels are typically placed on this kind of build. The aero is already compromised by the sudden termination of the fender/car body and adding material in this area would be more of an appearance decision than anything functional. Chuy would definitely be the guy for the technical answer.
My original question was actually referencing the lower backside of the wheels that face the track rails. You nicely closed out everything from the chassis up didn't know if you planned on closing out the lower wheel backs that face the track.
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 10:37:38 GMT -5
Before I respond, let me be sure I understand. Are you talking about below the body line?
If so, are you talking about behind the wheels? Inner wheels? Both? Neither?
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Post by Sugar Creek Racing on Jun 22, 2018 12:29:47 GMT -5
Before I respond, let me be sure I understand. Are you talking about below the body line? If so, are you talking about behind the wheels? Inner wheels? Both? Neither? Inside the wheels on the back side below the body line. |
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 13:59:02 GMT -5
Before I respond, let me be sure I understand. Are you talking about below the body line? If so, are you talking about behind the wheels? Inner wheels? Both? Neither? Inside the wheels on the back side below the body line. I have an idea that will be revealed (hopefully) at the 2018 Concept Challenge hosted by the 3rd Annual Soul Boxer Invitational. I'm not sure how much difference covering that small area would be. And different rules could come into play. But, I would love yours and other input as to what they might do in that area and why or why not. |
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Post by Sugar Creek Racing on Jun 22, 2018 14:04:29 GMT -5
Our builds are going to some of the same places (design wise). I'll be working inside the wheels soon. I'll post pics when I get there.
No secret, just not 100% sure of what I'm going to do yet. I think I will be covering the lower inside of my wheels.
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 14:14:42 GMT -5
My idea is not a secret either. I'm just not sure if it will work yet. With Riverboat Gambler being all balsa - I'm not sure if the idea will even work. It is going to take some meat to attach, will likely have to be done after wheels are installed (at least mock up wheels), and may be more trouble than they are worth. I would love Chuy and or others to chime in with science, proven ..., and/or cost benefit analysis . And, I would like to know for all four - not just the rears.
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Post by coffinnailracing on Jun 22, 2018 19:53:57 GMT -5
Good video George! Unfortunately, I had to skim it but plan to go back and watch it again. Ya it's pretty long 🙁 |
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 21:10:05 GMT -5
George, the only other thing you could have done to get all that info in is to break it into maybe three parts.
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Post by Eagle on Jun 22, 2018 21:25:11 GMT -5
I think I'm going to go for the clear tomorrow. Wish me luck! I just gave the car a very light sand. It should be cured by now. I will have to start early as the clear has a very specific time window. Or, I will have to wait for it to cure, sand it and spray again. Which I may end up doing if it isn't smooth enough round one.
I would love to wait til mid morning as I have to be out at a scheduled time and don't want to rush. But, it is going to be over 100 degrees tomorrow. And, the heat is going to be here for awhile.
Stickers arrived. The side ones are a little big. The main attraction is smaller than I was told. So, I did some custom work with some vinyl and gave it a 3D effect. I also hand painted some pink 7's on it to help blend it in.
Assuming the clear goes well, I will wait for it to cure, apply the final touches and post up some pics.
Then I have to decide what I'm going to do about wheels. Although I like the new colors, the more I look at them and the car I just don't think they will go well with the paint scheme. It is purple in the wheel areas. And, the "purple" wheels are more magenta in the pics. So, right now I'm thinking the originally planned black. Had I known about the wheels in advance I could have easily changed the paint scheme to blend the new wheels in.
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Post by Eagle on Jun 23, 2018 10:29:26 GMT -5
  Sun and shade pics with final(hopefully) clear coat! Once cured I’ll add the final touches and post up some pics. |
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Post by Eagle on Jun 28, 2018 21:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by Eagle on Jun 28, 2018 21:34:06 GMT -5
 Original plan was black. |
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Post by Eagle on Jun 28, 2018 21:35:06 GMT -5
 But, I think the pink were made for this car! |
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