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Post by Eagle on Nov 11, 2018 16:16:22 GMT -5
Double meaning because of gambling theme and RX7.
This car was built as a PWD racing model of a full scale concept I developed in the early 1990's. It took a first generation RX7 and made it look like a slant nose wide body Porsche convertible.
It is a Street Rod that can compete in a Scout race under most Scout rules.
Created from an out of the box block using the out of the box rules (what our troop and district use).
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Post by Eagle on Nov 11, 2018 16:24:56 GMT -5
Click on smaller images to enlarge.
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Lucky 7
Nov 15, 2018 12:56:06 GMT -5
Post by Sugar Creek Racing on Nov 15, 2018 12:56:06 GMT -5
Eagle, it is obvious a ton of hours was put into this build. I'm really surprised it didn't fair better in the voting.
I get that they are trying to limit this class to manufactured kits (now). Under the original rules though, it is a 1/24 (or 1/25) scale model of an actual car. So, I'd be OK with it. I am really scratching my head as to how Alfonso's White Knight met any of the scale model requirements. I don't think there is a full size prototype of that car anywhere.
Not trying to start anything, but, does anyone know how he was interpreting the original rule set as allowing the printed car? My paradigm is not allowing me to see it. Or am I not understanding what drove the changes that took place?
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Lucky 7
Nov 15, 2018 13:05:49 GMT -5
Post by Ember on Nov 15, 2018 13:05:49 GMT -5
I believe his car was deemed to be illegal, and thus disqualified from wining 3rd place at the race. By the rule set he technically wasn't even eligible for the Showstopper since his car didn't pass inspection. IMO his entry looked more like a speed boat than a car, but it was cool looking.
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Lucky 7
Nov 15, 2018 13:21:16 GMT -5
Post by Eagle on Nov 15, 2018 13:21:16 GMT -5
I'm more upset that I spent 100's of hours designing and working on a build for MOTM that is now being said is not legit (sort of). I started on the idea after MA. And, after SBI, I focused on building it out of wood by hand. The rule says it will be strictly enforced in 2019. But, they already bumped Alphonso's finish.
As to Ember's point: It seems that NPWDRL wants it both ways. Showstopper rules state, "1. A car must pass inspection and race in that month’s NPWDRL race to be eligible for the SHOWSTOPPER vote". So, if it was eligible, why did they give third place to someone else. If it was not, why did they allow it to be voted on. That takes votes from eligible cars.
To me if NPWDRL wants to legitimize they need to either give Alphonso his third place trophy, or block/remove White Knight from Showstopper and reopen polls and allow people to re vote. I doubt either will happen
So, in addition to running other entrants out of a class to try and win, I guess Alphonso wanted another win through not following the rules.
I'm happy that I no longer need to finish (Showstopper) One Off likely fast Street Rod. If, I had put weight and wheels and taken only for them to pull this ... I would have likely never raced there again.
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Post by Eagle on Nov 15, 2018 13:40:41 GMT -5
SCR: I built Lucky 7 as a Concept for SBI.
I have the RX7 kit and spent a lot of time getting it right. Hard to tell from the pics, but it even has the door, hood and headlight lines.
Gotta say it just seems wrong to ban a pine car in a pinewood derby. But, at least I have a cool car that is legal in most if not all Scout races. That is very tough to do with an out of the box model.
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Post by Crash Enburn on Nov 16, 2018 14:29:02 GMT -5
The problem lies in limited participation in the various classes. I'm guessing that Pinhead's car was too wide to be legal in any other class, and so was run in SR to let it run. Personally, I'm fine with it being in showstopper. And not counting it as eligible in the SR race was also the right call. I've always struggled with having the hand-built cars running in the SR class. I think that APR had a class called "Millcraft" or something like that, in which the all wood SRs could run. The problem was, that there would be maybe two cars running in a class there, so little competition. I also struggle with seeing unfinished/incomplete cars running in SR. How many micrograms were saved by not installing the headlight buckets? Did Nipwordle declare the hand-built SRs illegal for the MOTM? Or just for next race season? As to Showstopper, the more the merrier. I just want cars to win based on the car alone (detail, theme, innovation, etc.), and not some stupid gimmick. *cough* Zeeb *cough*
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Post by Eagle on Nov 17, 2018 23:16:28 GMT -5
I also struggle with seeing unfinished/incomplete cars running in SR. How many micrograms were saved by not installing the headlight buckets? We know what Crash Enburn thinks. What about the rest of you? Install for looks? Or, leave off for possible performance gain? Attachments:
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Lucky 7
Nov 17, 2018 23:58:36 GMT -5
Post by Chuy on Nov 17, 2018 23:58:36 GMT -5
I also struggle with seeing unfinished/incomplete cars running in SR. How many micrograms were saved by not installing the headlight buckets? We know what Crash Enburn thinks. What about the rest of you? Install for looks? Or, leave off for possible performance gain? Easy, are you trying to win the race or the showstopper?
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Lucky 7
Nov 18, 2018 0:37:24 GMT -5
Post by Professor Moriarty on Nov 18, 2018 0:37:24 GMT -5
I also struggle with seeing unfinished/incomplete cars running in SR. How many micrograms were saved by not installing the headlight buckets? We know what Crash Enburn thinks. What about the rest of you? Install for looks? Or, leave off for possible performance gain? Is it an animal, mineral, or vegetable?
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Lucky 7
Nov 18, 2018 0:43:06 GMT -5
Post by Eagle on Nov 18, 2018 0:43:06 GMT -5
Easy, are you trying to win the race or the showstopper? Yes! After the results with Lucky 7 I don't have high hopes on ShowStopper. It's like the guys that vote have never been in or voted on a car for a car show in their lives. Or, maybe they have. Maybe they were in one of those clubs where it was one guys turn to win.
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Lucky 7
Nov 18, 2018 0:44:21 GMT -5
Post by Eagle on Nov 18, 2018 0:44:21 GMT -5
Laserman, it's headlight buckets.
Shown on scale in post a couple back,
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Nov 21, 2018 0:14:09 GMT -5
The problem lies in limited participation in the various classes. I'm guessing that Pinhead's car was too wide to be legal in any other class, and so was run in SR to let it run. Personally, I'm fine with it being in showstopper. And not counting it as eligible in the SR race was also the right call. I've always struggled with having the hand-built cars running in the SR class. I think that APR had a class called "Millcraft" or something like that, in which the all wood SRs could run. The problem was, that there would be maybe two cars running in a class there, so little competition. I also struggle with seeing unfinished/incomplete cars running in SR. How many micrograms were saved by not installing the headlight buckets? Did Nipwordle declare the hand-built SRs illegal for the MOTM? Or just for next race season? As to Showstopper, the more the merrier. I just want cars to win based on the car alone (detail, theme, innovation, etc.), and not some stupid gimmick. *cough* Zeeb *cough* Yep... the contest should be about craftsmanship... IMHO... an unlimited car has no place in the Showstopper... and I don’t care if you’re flying it from a drone or using it as a boomerang. That is just a no-brainer.
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