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Post by Professor Moriarty on Apr 14, 2017 9:04:35 GMT -5
I figured that was the plan that you were getting at VK...
It is a very nice thought and I betcha it is achievable...
It may take considerable effort and some investment though.
The first thing you will probably need in order to make this tool... would be a lathe. LOL
Sorry... I couldn't resist.
Bore damage aside...does the wheel shaver reduce runout if used properly? Have you seen anything posted about it?
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Post by The Zeebzob on Apr 14, 2017 9:07:16 GMT -5
Do you think the cheap stuff you are getting from china will be better regarding run out? That's where the expense come in. Precision equals $$$$.
I have a drill press with a .0002 runout spindle. I picked it up used off ebay for $250. New they were 8 or 9 hundred. It looks like a toy, only about a foot tall.
In the end, you best bet may be the wheel shaver. Kids are resilient. They bounce back. Fingers heal quickly for them. For you and me, the aches your hands get from that thing will last for days. Let them use the tool, you'll all feel better about it.
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Apr 14, 2017 9:10:39 GMT -5
Do you think the cheap stuff you are getting from china will be better regarding run out? That's where the expense come in. Precision equals $$$$. I have a drill press with a .0002 runout spindle. I picked it up used off ebay for $250. New they were 8 or 9 hundred. It looks like a toy, only about a foot tall. In the end, you best bet may be the wheel shaver. Kids are resilient. They bounce back. Fingers heal quickly for them. For you and me, the aches your hands get from that thing will last for days. Let them use the tool, you'll all feel better about it. Good point Andy! We already have a wheel shaver! Now we just need a bore shaver to follow it up! |
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 9:12:38 GMT -5
Do you think the cheap stuff you are getting from china will be better regarding run out? That's where the expense come in. Precision equals $$$$. I have a drill press with a .0002 runout spindle. I picked it up used off ebay for $250. New they were 8 or 9 hundred. It looks like a toy, only about a foot tall. In the end, you best bet may be the wheel shaver. Kids are resilient. They bounce back. Fingers heal quickly for them. For you and me, the aches your hands get from that thing will last for days. Let them use the tool, you'll all feel better about it. It's an excellent question, and one I can't answer until I have the part in hand. A drill press isn't built to be a precision tool. That's not its sole purpose. It has to be fairly rugged too. What I bought is just a motor with a bearing on the end and an ER11 collet. My hope is that it will be better. I could be sorely disappointed. Only time will tell on that one. |
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Post by micro on Apr 14, 2017 9:13:53 GMT -5
The first thing you will probably need in order to make this tool... would be a lathe. LOL The second tool would be a mill. Good Stuff! |
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 9:14:21 GMT -5
I figured that was the plan that you were getting at VK... It is a very nice thought and I betcha it is achievable... It may take considerable effort and some investment though. The first thing you will probably need in order to make this tool... would be a lathe. LOL Sorry... I couldn't resist. Bore damage aside...does the wheel shaver reduce runout if used properly? Have you seen anything posted about it? Yes, the wheel shaver will reduce runout if properly used. I've measured the output and it gets a wheel down to somewhere between 002" and 001" if you can manage to use it without gouging the wheel surface. It takes a LOT of patience and a non-trivial amount of luck. It's not something I'd ever want to try to teach an impatient 9 year old to do. |
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Apr 14, 2017 9:15:39 GMT -5
If the wheel shaver can actually reduce runout... Then I would think that perhaps a modification to a wheel shaver might be one avenue.
Something like a bearing with a pin in it held fast to the shaver?
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Post by micro on Apr 14, 2017 9:18:58 GMT -5
If the wheel shaver can actually reduce runout... Then I would think that perhaps a modification to a wheel shaver might be one avenue. Something like a bearing with a pin in it held fast to the shaver? Sure and then turn it with a power drill on the other end. Use 3/16 SS stock and make mandrels that could fit in the bearing? |
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 9:19:35 GMT -5
If the wheel shaver can actually reduce runout... Then I would think that perhaps a modification to a wheel shaver might be one avenue. Something like a bearing with a pin in it held fast to the shaver? If the pin was 1) A snug fit and 2) Rotated on a bearing instead of making the wheel rotate around the pin It would be YUGEly better. |
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Post by The Zeebzob on Apr 14, 2017 9:30:25 GMT -5
A drill press isn't built to be a precision tool. Not true. It depends on the drill press. Some are built with precision in mind. |
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 9:32:06 GMT -5
A drill press isn't built to be a precision tool. Not true. It depends on the drill press. Some are built with precision in mind. Okay, fine, but if you spend 250 bucks on a drill press that you intend to use as a lathe-replacement, you're needing to reconsider your options.  My $60 HF press does what I expect it to do. I don't expect it to be precise. |
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Post by The Zeebzob on Apr 14, 2017 9:38:17 GMT -5
Lathe replacement was not my intention. Drilling accurate holes was. I used to use it with The Block, but then the GB dril jig came out. Now I use it to drill and ream the holes in the acrylic I use for Unlimited wheels. Precision there is key.
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 10:01:17 GMT -5
Lathe replacement was not my intention. Drilling accurate holes was. I used to use it with The Block, but then the GB dril jig came out. Now I use it to drill and ream the holes in the acrylic I use for Unlimited wheels. Precision there is key. Sure, that make sense. It just doesn't make sense for my purposes, nor does it make sense as a component in a simple-yet-repeatable system to improve wheels. |
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Apr 14, 2017 10:08:18 GMT -5
LOL!!! I crack up every time I see your avatar, Zeeb.
So... Are you saying that you think it is possible to achieve what VK wants with a decent drill press and a jig?
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Post by Vitamin K on Apr 14, 2017 10:16:24 GMT -5
LOL!!! I crack up every time I see your avatar, Zeeb. So... Are you saying that you think it is possible to achieve what VK wants with a decent drill press and a jig? This would echo what lostaussie was suggesting yesterday. One issue to contend with might be the minimum speed at which a drill press turns (would it be slow enough?) |
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