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Post by whodathunkit on Jul 14, 2019 10:51:25 GMT -5
Thank's Joe!
Eagle, The black Dremel tool you say you like.. is an older variable speed Multipro 5,000-30,000 rpm. The larger Dremel tool that I share in the DT topic is the Dremel 4000 .. 5,000-35,000 rpm. The cordless Dremel stylus 5,000-25,000 rpm The Dremel stylo+ 5,000-22,000 rpm at 6.8 ounces.
The flex shaft is Okay.. but it takes some getting used to as well to move around the work piece. For my self I'v found it's better to use hung up.. but a pain to start and stop the tool.. in less you have control foot pedal.
If I were looking for a all in one Dremel tool accessory to get started with along with a corded Dremel tool. I would have to say that the Dremel workstation combined drill press would give someone what they need. You have a drill press. a tool hanger for using a flex shaft.. plus a way to route out pockets, and so much more like polishing axles and so on.
If you could see my workshop you would say.. do you think you have enough Dremel tool's.. as I'm not Dremel tool poor! And that fact that's all i ever asked for.. and got for Christmas for the past years of my life.
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Post by micro on Jul 14, 2019 11:52:21 GMT -5
I don't like the Dremel work station. My worst PWD purchase. If anyone wants it...it is for sale. It would be fine though if you lack space. You could make an entire car with just that tool Dremel and work station and a drill jig. They make a dental lab hand pieces that are great. I like that over my Dremel, but the bits would be harder to find and more expensive. I do use the dremel on occasion, especially if using the sand paper as they don't make a drum for a dental hand piece.
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Post by whodathunkit on Jul 14, 2019 14:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by Eagle on Jul 14, 2019 14:47:26 GMT -5
I've thought about doing one with fenders/wings. It is actually how I came up with a car design (no one has done yet) that I've been wanting to build since I started. I've made multiple (unsuccessful) attempts. Plan is in place now. Hoping to get some help/part(s) from a friend.
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Post by Cherokee Chuck on Jul 15, 2019 12:08:42 GMT -5
Sounds good to me Eagle! I'll do a vintage car build and race with you. Hell yeah! I got a 1953 100% original custom I can run wobbly wheels and All! H to the E to the double hockey sticks yeah!!!
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Jul 15, 2019 14:46:08 GMT -5
Whoda gave me one of those a while back... but I never got around to building it.
Hey JS! Nice work on the podcast... You too Andre...
I’m only about 1/2 way thru it...
Just a small clarification though...
Some fellas make their cars 1/4” thick... but I like to think the smart ones make them 5/16” thick.
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Post by Eagle on Jul 15, 2019 15:29:14 GMT -5
OK I'll start a thread re upcoming builds and race info. Hopefully Ember, Sugar Creek Racing, Loud2ns, Skippy Kicky, Crash Enburn, Chuy, PinewoodCNC, JSpearm1983, Ironband, Micro, Vitamin K, Mr B and others will join in the fun.
Laserman I believe they were saying/implying that the minimum you would want to go is the thickness of readily available tungsten weights that are 1/4".
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Post by Cherokee Chuck on Jul 15, 2019 22:26:35 GMT -5
I wanna race my 53' .....any takers? Attachments:
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Post by Eagle on Jul 15, 2019 23:44:33 GMT -5
Chuck - Did you build that?
Someone restore it?
Any history on it?
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Jul 16, 2019 7:44:08 GMT -5
I wanna race my 53' .....any takers? Heeeeyyyy.... Nice lookin’ paint job, Chuck. I like the blueprints as a backdrop too.
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Post by Cherokee Chuck on Jul 16, 2019 18:58:24 GMT -5
Chuck - Did you build that? Someone restore it? Any history on it? Yes. I built this.....from a 1953 vintage pwd kit I bought on Ebay for 30$ . The story is that I built it to show the scouts I help to see the form of the boys life pucture showing the original instructions for the car. All dimensions where scaled from the online picture/directions. It came out pretty close to the boys life ad. The builders notes on it are as follows....two included wood spars cut and placed as given direction. The kit was missing one wheel which I replaced by collecting over 25 vintage 53s and choosing the best single like new....one out of 100 true story. The weight package is set to 5 oz of cylinder tungsten and one screw in ballast to adjust balance point back to 1" in front of the rears. It has been graphite prepped, runs on three wheels as a leftie dom. Pretty sure it would have been smoking in 1953. Nowadays it was just built to be clean curved and stylish for an old car. The paint is metal flake purple auto paint...3 light coats with 3k wet sand then 2 light coats of clear with a 3k wet sand in between. Wood sealer and a couple sanded coats of primer as a base. I am by no means a body finish guy but am formulating the experience for show stoppers of tomorrows....
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Post by Professor Moriarty on Jul 16, 2019 19:35:28 GMT -5
Chuck - Did you build that? Someone restore it? Any history on it? Yes. I built this.....from a 1953 vintage pwd kit I bought on Ebay for 30$ . The story is that I built it to show the scouts I help to see the form of the boys life pucture showing the original instructions for the car. All dimensions where scaled from the online picture/directions. It came out pretty close to the boys life ad. The builders notes on it are as follows....two included wood spars cut and placed as given direction. The kit was missing one wheel which I replaced by collecting over 25 vintage 53s and choosing the best single like new....one out of 100 true story. The weight package is set to 5 oz of cylinder tungsten and one screw in ballast to adjust balance point back to 1" in front of the rears. It has been graphite prepped, runs on three wheels as a leftie dom. Pretty sure it would have been smoking in 1953. Nowadays it was just built to be clean curved and stylish for an old car. The paint is metal flake purple auto paint...3 light coats with 3k wet sand then 2 light coats of clear with a 3k wet sand in between. Wood sealer and a couple sanded coats of primer as a base. I am by no means a body finish guy but am formulating the experience for show stoppers of tomorrows.... Hold on... you bought 26 vintage kits at $30/ kit? Mind if I ask what you do for a living, Chuck?
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Post by Cherokee Chuck on Jul 16, 2019 19:53:08 GMT -5
No. I bought one kit in a brown paper bag, missing 1 wheel with age destroyed instructions. Then bought at the best pricing possible 25 vintage cars that had wheels that matched my kit cars wheels...from ebay, estate sales, craigs list and internet photo links. Lol....I am a tinner. HVAC/sheetmetal mechanic. Commercial and light industrial and certified welder. A part time locksmith, and proud papa.
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Post by Cherokee Chuck on Jul 16, 2019 20:00:48 GMT -5
I am a race art collector....so i like vintage and modern pinewood derby cars, part, accessories and race inventions including tools, gates and pictures....so if anything sets of my spidie senses I research and offer to add it to the collection. The race is a hobby and a passion. One reason why I enjoy the brotherhood here....technology, innovations, grit and very open and cool idealogy.
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Post by whodathunkit on Jul 17, 2019 19:54:36 GMT -5
Cherokee chuck, That's is one killer looking car love the paint job!! Are the axles on the car 8 penny finishing nails? from the photo of your car they sure look like they could be hard to tell however. (So that's why I'm asking if they are.) As for the OCT 1954 Boy's Life page showing the car plan.. I can help out with that or any vintage car plans over the years. Attachment DeletedAfter the Passing of the Pinewood Derby founder Don Murphy. The kids of Cub Scout troop 189 Hugoton,Ks and I built and raced a car modeled after car plan seen above in his Memory. The car was raced on 8 penny finish nail axles and no graphite lube! Under Don's old Rules. The car ran an avg time of 3.088 at 160.1 on the packs 35 ft best track. The finger prints seen on the computer screen were the kid's way of cheering the car on in his memory! As it was raced with a fan powered car, and one using razor wheels.. both cars running oil lubes. Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedLater the car was raced at WIRL on April 17, 2010 in the open class with an avg time of 3.674 (no graphite lube!) This year I took the car with me to Mid America to see what it would do on there test track for one single run. (Before retiring the car.. more on that later!) Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedHard to tell the single run time in the photo above 3.458 Still running the same 8 penny finish nail axles and no graphite lube. About Retiring the car.. today the car can be seen in Joe Gargiulo's National Pinewood Derby Museum and Pinewood Derby Hall of Fame. So i say to you these old vintage cars are very fun to build with the kids and race.. Never once did the kids and I ever give any thoughts that the car would end up in a museum some day when we built car in the Founders Memory. Best of luck with your vintage classic car!
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